Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/11/2002 01:32 PM Senate HES

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                    
      SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE                                                                    
                        February 11, 2002                                                                                       
                            1:32 p.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
Senator Lyda Green, Chair                                                                                                       
Senator Loren Leman, Vice Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Gary Wilken                                                                                                             
Senator Jerry Ward                                                                                                              
Senator Bettye Davis                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All Members Present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 250                                                                                                             
"An  Act  extending  the  dates   for  assignment  of  performance                                                              
designations  of public  schools  and the  dates  for reports  and                                                              
monitoring  based  on those  designations;  and  providing for  an                                                              
effective date."                                                                                                                
     HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SB 250 - See HESS minutes dated 1/30/02.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Mark Leal                                                                                                                   
Department of Education &                                                                                                       
 Early Development                                                                                                              
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801 W 10 St.                                                                                                                    
Juneau, AK  99801-1894                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions about SB 250.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 02-7, SIDE A                                                                                                             
Number 001                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  LYDA  GREEN  called the  Senate  Health,  Education  &                                                            
Social Services  Committee meeting to  order at 1:32  p.m. Present                                                              
were Senators Wilken,  Ward and Green.  She announced  that SB 250                                                              
was before  the committee and asked  if members had  any questions                                                              
or comments.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                SB 250-SCHOOL PERFORMANCE REPORTS                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN referred  to the  school  designator report  cards                                                              
generated  by the Department  of Education  and Early  Development                                                              
(DOEED)  in  1994-1995,  1998-1999  and the  most  recent  reports                                                              
posted  on  its  website.  He  noted  the  first  report  contains                                                              
excellent information while the second  report offers virtually no                                                              
useful information and  the reports on the website  provide no way                                                              
to compare  information among schools  or districts.  He  asked if                                                              
the  school designator  reports will  continue to  "slide down  to                                                              
what  amounts to  minimalist  information"  and whether  something                                                              
should be added to SB 250 to clarify  what the legislature expects                                                              
from the report card report.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. MARK  LEAL, DOEED,  said he  believes the  biggest shift  that                                                              
occurred in  the school report cards  happened last year  when, by                                                              
statute, DOEED  had to  begin reporting  at the individual  school                                                              
level. He agreed that DOEED could  do an analysis of districts but                                                              
he is not familiar with the rationale  behind the legislation that                                                              
changed  the  focus from  districts  to  schools. He  stated  that                                                              
reporting by  school raises  confidentiality issues,  particularly                                                              
for   very  small   schools.  He   believes  DOEED   has  made   a                                                              
conscientious  effort  to gather  and  report the  information  by                                                              
school and meet the statutory requirement.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR. LEAL referred  to a handout he provided to  committee members,                                                              
a sample Alaska  School Report Card (green), and  said it reflects                                                              
the comments of many parents, teachers  and community members that                                                              
school designations  need to  be based on  more than  test scores.                                                              
The categories  on the right side  of the report  show information                                                              
in addition to the test scores.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN referred  to language on page 1, lines  9-11, of SB
250 and asked  Dr. Leal, "Is this  what is promised or  called out                                                              
in the legislation as we see it today?"                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DR. LEAL replied:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The  information  right now  is  some  of the  items  of                                                                   
     school quality  that are on the - that are  on the right                                                                   
     -   the  attendance.     I  don't   have  the   specific                                                                   
     legislation  in  front  of   me  but  I  know  that  the                                                                   
     department  was  careful  to  make  sure  that  all  the                                                                   
     required  test  scores  were included  on  those  school                                                                   
     report cards but I don't have  the current school report                                                                   
     card in front of me to be able to comment on that.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked how to tell  from SB 250 what the public will                                                              
see on the report card in two years.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR.  LEAL said  one can't  tell.   He  added the  reason DOEED  is                                                              
talking about the school report card  is that the designators must                                                              
be reported on it; that is where the two are tied.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  asked if the  information contained on  the report                                                              
card is listed in statute.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR.  LEAL  said   that  AS  14.03.078  contains  a   list  of  the                                                              
information about each school that is required.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  asked if that list  is referenced on page  1, line                                                              
11, of SB 250.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN   indicated  that   committee  members   need  a                                                              
comparison of  the 1994-1995 law  and current statute.   She asked                                                              
Senator  Wilken if  he is  requesting  that DOEED  do an  overview                                                              
report of  what is happening  in school  districts in  addition to                                                              
individual school reports.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  said that individual school reports  are necessary                                                              
as  is  a basis  of  comparison  but  there  is  no way  to  do  a                                                              
comparison.  He stated:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Maybe we're  at a spot  at the transition  from district                                                                   
     to  school to  the designators  that brings  us back  to                                                                   
     have  some information  that's valuable.   What I  don't                                                                   
     want to do is have an opportunity  - this bill, SB 250 -                                                                   
     to go by  this committee and then two years  from now we                                                                   
     say, we really  didn't ask them what we wanted  to know.                                                                   
     That's  what I  was getting  at. It seems  back in  [SB]                                                                   
     133, which  we did last year,  it's called out  on these                                                                   
     two pages.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He asked  Chairwoman Green to hold  the bill in committee  so that                                                              
he can report  to the committee  what the designators will  be and                                                              
how they will be reported.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN agreed and said  it will most likely be scheduled                                                              
again on February 20.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:47 p.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DAVIS said  she  thought DOEED  was  supposed to  provide                                                              
members information  about what  the designator committee  decided                                                              
was to be in the report.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR. LEAL  referred to  the handouts and  said what the  designator                                                              
committee envisions  is contained  on the  sample report  card. He                                                              
explained  that   the  designation  would  be  based   on  student                                                              
achievement,  status and  growth score,  and persistence  and drop                                                              
out rate.  Other items would be reported but not factored in.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN noted the other handouts  contain an update on what                                                              
the designator committee has done.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DR. LEAL  said the  first document  is a  two-page summary  of the                                                              
background and what the designator  committee wanted to include as                                                              
part  of  the  school  designator;  the  second  document  answers                                                              
questions  that  have  been raised  about  the  school  designator                                                              
system; the third  is the sample report card, which  puts the dual                                                              
requirements  of  designating  schools and  reporting  on  schools                                                              
together on the school report card.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN asked  if the school  report  card will use  the                                                              
format of the sample.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. LEAL  said he anticipates the  left column will look  the same                                                              
but more space  will be needed for narrative to  report the school                                                              
quality sections.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN  asked if the school  itself will be  receiving a                                                              
score in the Grade 3 Benchmark category column.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR. LEAL  said that  is correct and  explained that a  designation                                                              
will  be calculated  based  on  averaging  the status  and  growth                                                              
together.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN  asked if the results  of this year's  tests will                                                              
be available.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. LEAL said they will.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN asked  if anything  in  statute prohibits  DOEED                                                              
from   producing  an   overview   publication   or  whether   that                                                              
requirement was deleted from statute.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. LEAL said he would research that question.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS asked for a copy of the 1994-1995 publication.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN  said  she  wonders  if the  requirement  for  a                                                              
district overview publication was dropped from statute                                                                          
inadvertently.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  said it  may have occurred  as part of  the change                                                              
made in  SB 36, which  created the designators.   He said  that is                                                              
fine as long  as legislators know  what they can expect  two years                                                              
out.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
There being no further discussion, CHAIRWOMAN GREEN announced                                                                   
that the committee will take up SB 256 on Wednesday, February 13.                                                               
She then adjourned the meeting at 1:53 p.m.                                                                                     

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